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Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.02.04 12:03:00 -
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As one of your investors, and people locking down the BPO's, was currious if I could ask a favor.
I was trying to go through the thread and look at current payouts, when they happend and such, but seems a bit difficult with such a large thread. Is it possible you can take your 5th Post and add in, and continue to add in all Payout records, just as a quick snap shot of whats going on?
If this already exists and I just don't see it please excuse my ignorance and point me in correct direction.
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Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.02.13 11:51:00 -
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I have not been able to watch this thread, so would like to have a quick re-cap of whats going on.
How much in Divies Paid (If Any) What is current plant, when will holders see dividends Why are so many people selling off these shares (Assume because no divies)
Just a quick recap would be great, I am sure other investors have not followed this 40+ page thread and would like an idea of whats going on as well. |

Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.02.13 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Proton Power I have not been able to watch this thread, so would like to have a quick re-cap of whats going on.
How much in Divies Paid (If Any) What is current plant, when will holders see dividends Why are so many people selling off these shares (Assume because no divies)
Just a quick recap would be great, I am sure other investors have not followed this 40+ page thread and would like an idea of whats going on as well.
No dividends have been paid.
We have produced 1 ME 0 Leviathan BPC so far. This has not been sold due to the state of the market at the moment. I can push for a sale at a low price and pay out a small return or we can hang on for improvement. My feeling is that prices of ME0 BPCs are always going to be poor so we may as well shift it now.
Our war chest still has plenty to cover POS fuel for a long time, so the operation itself is not at risk from starvation.
We have around 50 days before the Leviathan BPO reaches ME 1. We have around 60 days before the Erebus ME 1 BPC pops out. We have around 90 days before the Avatar ME 1 BPC pops out. Timings here are deliberately imprecise, for reasons of operational secrecy.
If we are looking towards a long term recovery on the Titan BPC market then we're perfectly well positioned to take advantage of it, should it occur. Even if prices remain subdued we can produce a low return selling BPCs even at current prices.
If we are looking to pull out of the operation then I would advocate doing so in stages as each BPO comes out of research so that we do not lose any of the results of the time spent.
My verdict is to sit and wait for 50 days and review the situation then. Selling the Leviathan BPC during that time if possible.
Obviously shares are being traded heavily due to the lack of dividends and the state of the market. My own isk is being channeled heavily into Ugly Toys, which is doing very well. Once I've stopped expansion there, returns on that start rolling in and I clear a few of the less beneficial debts I will start buying up Titans For You shares myself at face value. Even if we close down the operation I am inclined to secure enough shares so that I can purchase the Avatar BPO for myself, if only so I can have my own steady supply of Cosmic Death Mushrooms to expend in psychadelic PvP lightshows.
Looks good, don't really have thoughts or concerns on the actual dealings, just more want to see somthing so I know whats going on.
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Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.04.24 15:56:00 -
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Whats up with the new vote?
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Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.05.07 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Titans 4U I've been buying cheap BPCs and reselling them. I'm not using Titans For You funds to do this (there isn't enough spare cash for that) but I'm selling them through the Titans For You shop thread.
Items 1,2,3,4,7 & 11 are produced by Titans For You, items 5,6,8,9 & 10 were sourced elsewhere.
Are you paying Titans For You anything for the use of its shop to sell your own BPCs?
Long as he sells Titans4U bpc's prior to his personal ones he bought dont see why he should. I use LYII for many things, some personal some for the IPO.
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Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.08.25 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Emmgel Well if it helps, I don't mind disclosing that (assuming the expansion goes ahead, which I suspect it will) I will have 40,000 shares in this venture.
As I say, the offer is there if people feel it would be helpful.
Emmgel
Originally by: Jadun yo ho
I would like to offer myself. For the position of Director.
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Jadun yo ho
I would like to offer myself. For the position of Director.
This or Emmgel imo. Since it would be safeR to assume that a majority investor have the best interest of the venture in mind.
Though personally I do not see a reason for another trustee to be involved, the 3 currently in place is fine by me.
I agree, on the basis that "lock/unlock vote" control is provided by SuperSekrit corp shares but "steal everything that isn't nailed down" control is not provided to these individuals because being a large shareholder does align your interests with the IPO but does not prevent you from wanting to take it all. No offense intended.
So I would recommend these new trustees:
1. Emmgel, the 2nd largest shareholder both currently and after the expansion. 2. Ji Sama, the 3rd largest shareholder both currently and after the expansion. 3. Jadun, the 5th largest shareholder now and the 4th largest shareholder after the expansion.
I have presumed that Ji Sama would not object to taking a trustee position and have proposed a general shareholder vote on the decision that these three are given lock/unlock control shares.
Are you replacing the old team with these new members or are these in addition to.
This could be good and bad:
Spread the shares out enough, half the people may miss the votes. Spread the shares out enough, more people to notice whats going on.
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Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.08.25 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby Do the trustees that I have recommended require a cut of the profits for their appointment or are they happy to simply protect their own investment? We currently have one paid trustee (who it must be said keeps his director alt subbed and shows a very keen interest in the IPO) who receives 1% of profits. I would not refuse a 1% cut to any additional trustee if they requested it but I believe that such a request should be public prior to shareholders voting on the appointment as that cut would come out of the dividend.
Wihtout being an @sshole. If one of the new people that come onboard what a % then those that refuesed it from the start should get it as well.
Also still need clearification does this replace those of us that have been doing this. I let you basicly do as you need, but I am always watching :)
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Proton Power
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:08:00 -
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You can blame the trustee's if you wish but I will point out a few things:
1. I did not like the idea of more trustee's or shares, you can verify this yourself earlier in this thread. Actually I think I specifically said somthing like this could happen if not careful with so many trustee's and shares out there.
2. The investors voted for the shares, the trustee's went with what the share holders wanted.
3. Even if we controlled more of the shares, BB could still take away our Director roles, and put in a vote every day to unlock the BPO's. Sooner or later a trustee would miss that vote and BB woudl still walk away with the BPO's.
4. This was a flawed system from the start, it was pointed out by many, argued by many, but CCP created the system flawed.
5. Flame On!!!
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